Tuesday, January 8, 2019

Massive Warm Water Bleed to the South -- The Ice Man Cometh

My ocean currents map is stuck at Christmas, thanks to trumpypants.  And they aren't throwing out new floaters for the temperature.  I find the Southern Hemisphere only seems to update once a month.

But what an update!  It looks like the entire Atlantic belt has just dumped south.  The current map would have confirmed that the main current suddenly went south of the nose-deflector and is gushing arterial blood.

Naturally, I will say this is 'unprecedented'.  As you can see, the warm water is curving around and may engage the 'lock' that I said was possible.  If it hooks in, then we are in for a major ice age.

Stay tuned, and hope the current maps are out soon.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch of air plumes, the Atlantic plumes are still going straight up, leaving the UK.  New ones are still being generated.

And if you've got nothing else to do, this is a laugh.

ps.  this is reality

caused by the incredible rapid attack of ice along Labrador

Appendix:  As usual, I'll add some more for Penny and the old guy.  The temp charts show that this whole up and down thing is confined to the Northern Hemisphere.  When I mentioned to the Guardian readers I got a hilarious account of 'English Major Physics'.  Nevertheless, these guys are the masters of semantics and fb hate mail, so I generally hide.  Our northern cycles consist of a 40 year (full wave) cycle that gave us the 70's freeze.  We also have a 600 year (full wave) cycle, where we can only dream of the mechanism.  But that cycle is 150 years quarter rise, and we have come to the end of that.  We don't know how rapidly that drops, but it's happening now.

My hypothesis is that the 40 year cycle is the Pacific building up and dumping heat energy, which involves the total volume of water, down to some reasonable depth.  For the last few years I have observed the Atlantic current getting close to tipping over the nose of South America, but it has always pulled up.  I speculated that it could totally tip to the south.  What a dream!  or nightmare.  Who could have such imagination?  When the Pacific and Atlantic sync, we get ice cubes.

It turns out the s. hemi water temps chart has been frozen for over a month.  And now, it's my dream in full technicolour reality.  Wow.  I hear the US dept of energy is throwing in money to fight nasa.  Good luck with that.


Penny said...
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Harold Asmis said...

Ha, didn't understand a thing you said. Does your husband? That's my problem, I go on and on and never connect with anybody. That's why I say I write for future generations, even though the young people are dumb on physics. Maybe five generations. :) In short, nobody understands me and I don't understand anybody. :)

Penny said...

Hi Harold:

Yah, that was a bit of a ramble so I've clarified the comment and have broken it down to two parts

Part 1:

Below responses to your blog post:

Read the Ice Man Cometh post but, had no time to comment.

However today, I have the time:

Re: the stranded seals

Hubby saw the news about the seals east of us.. the ice expansion looked to have taken place in short order so that's interesting (your ice map thingie).. considering all the 'warming'

Re: “ Nevertheless, these guys are the masters of semantics and fb hate mail, so I generally hide”

Semantics.... it's a devil of a job to get around it It requires one to choose the words used very carefully and define.. (I'm notorious for that at my blog, because it has to be done)

As for the up and down temps being only in the Northern Hemisphere? After October and November, December has been mild. But, that appears to be coming to an end as yesterday was quite a bit colder and a cold wind.

And today, so far, is really cold not including the wind chill factor

And fyi: Yes, my hubby understands me. Even when I ramble :)

Penny said...

Part 2: Picking your brain-

There was an article about Ocean temps- below the surface being very cold..despite global warming (lol) a harkening back to the ice age. BUT... the way it was reported made me uncomfortable. It was giving me cognitive dissonance- I don't like that.

Example in Australia it’s being reported it's hot but the surf is so cold?


The article includes an explanation for why this is occuring, but when I think about all the 'ink spilled' pushing the AGW myth I have to wonder if the cold water is a bit of a problem for the agenda push?

Then there was this report:


"According to the results, ongoing cooling observed in Pacific deep-ocean temperatures indicates that the deep Pacific is still adjusting to the surface cooling that occurred during the Little Ice Age, which began nearly 1,000 years ago. The common-era climate anomaly known as the Little Ice Age brought significantly colder year-round temperature averages to many parts of the globe and is recognized in paleoclimate and historical records worldwide"

I recall you had a commenter who said there was no such thing as the little ice age. Contrary to what is being reported in the above linked article... But, whatever???

In the eurekalert article the “ongoing cooling” that is being observed is what bothers me

It’s being presented as left over from the little ice age (the one that, according to the warmistas, never existed) But, if global temperatures have climbed so very much as the earth has warmed since the last ice age- I'd expect that to be reflected in deep (?) ocean temperatures- but that does not seem to be the case- which is odd. Instead the deep waters are cooling.

And then there is this last paragraph

"Furthermore, the results underscore the deep ocean's role in the planetary heat budget and suggest that the heat loss in the deep Pacific since 1750 offsets nearly a quarter of global heat gain in the upper ocean, according to the authors. "

I'm clear on the idea of the ocean's role in planetary heat budgeting. Pretty sure that's the mechanism we've spoken of previously

I'm referring to:


... but if we are warming then those deep ocean waters should be warmer

OR is it as suggested that the planet has a balance...
OR is the earth actually cooling overall and this is being reflected in the deep water temps?

Brain picking ended :)

Penny said...

PS: I try very hard to understand what you write.

Harold Asmis said...

Yeah, what would I do without your comments? Whenever I go after the powerful, I get fits of despair thinking they might read it. Other times I go into a funk because nobody reads it. You hold off the black dog of depression.

However, I'm at a loss to explain basic things of physics that are like mother's milk to me. I put in a post that nobody does basic physics, but they feel a hit in head when they take their dreams to reality. Our coming ice age is reality. Nuclear plants are reality. Destroying the economy is reality.

But your question on the deep ocean is simple. Cold water sinks to depths of the ocean. It doesn't come back unless dug out by colder water. If you drill under the horrible Bruce waste site you get water that is millions of years old. It won't surface unless they build a waste repository.

That deep ocean water is slowly warmed by the Earth. When there is another major ice age, then it will turn over. Might be soon.